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Faction Gambler · Mar 13, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

After seeing the high-end items thread, its got me wondering... Why dont sellers request black dyes to trade beyond 100 plats? Black dyes to me seem to be a far more stable item to hoard up for trading purposes. Perhaps the purple round thingy just looks better in storage?

kunta · Mar 13, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

Idk It would be harder to sell I would think.

Syco Masato · Mar 13, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Well.. you can FARM ectos, but with black dyes its all about luck. That's the only reason I can really think of. Then again you could just go to the damn trader, but eh.

bhavv · Mar 13, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

Ive gotten 3 black dyes in 2 years compared to maybe around 300 ecto plus more whenever I want them? Maybe thats why.

RussBus · Mar 13, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

if black dyes were used as currency what do you think would happen to the price as them? same thing as ectos...

Captain Miken · Mar 13, 2008, 02:22 AM // 02:22

Scenario:
We decide as a community to make a mass movement from Ecto to Black dye.
We all rush the Dye Trader to get a stack or two for trading purposes.
The result: massively increase Black dye prices, massively increased Ecto prices.

aleaf92 · Mar 13, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

The sheer number of ectos in the economy is the reason why its used.

kartmaster · Mar 13, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24

I think Black Dye is more stable BECAUSE it's not usually used as a medium for trade. There's not near as much black dye in circulation (i.e. in players storage) as there is ecto.

The high volume of ecto in the market, and the volume that is traded everyday makes it more suceptable to inflation. Switching to black dye as a medium for exchange negates any stability it once had as a commodity.

arcanemacabre · Mar 13, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Hey, it's used as a commodity in Pre!

Arutima · Mar 13, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

black dye arent used because they are way rarer then ectos (ectos can be mass farmed easily in Uw, and the black dyes cannot)

Navaros · Mar 13, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

Black Dyes aren't stable. They used to be worth 12k or more for a long while. Then for a long while they were at 6k. Right now they are at 8k.

Anyhow threads like this always come up with forum posters wanting to change the economy of off Ectos. Usually it's threads with titles like "The Lockpick Revolution" with original posts claiming that lockpicks have or soon will replace Ectos as the basic item of the economy.

But in reality, threads trying to change the economy away from Ectos are always just wishful thinking, and never have any effect of changing the economy away from Ectos at all.

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 13, 2008, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

Black Dyes aren't stable. They used to be worth 12k or more for a long while. Then for a long while they were at 6k. Right now they are at 8k.

Anyhow threads like this always come up with forum posters wanting to change the economy of off Ectos. Usually it's threads with titles like "The Lockpick Revolution" with original posts claiming that lockpicks have or soon will be the basic item of the ecomomy.

But in reality, threads trying to change the economy away from Ectos are always just wishful thinking, and never have any effect of changing the economy away from Ectos at all.

you do know of the huge price dips and rises ectos have gone through right?

Navaros · Mar 13, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergeant Miyagi

you do know of the huge price dips and rises ectos have gone through right?

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that Black Dyes are not stable, which is an erroneous statement made in the thread title and OP regardless of anything having to do with Ectos.

politicsxxox · Mar 13, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

20x Black Dye drop rate weekend!!!

Stimm · Mar 13, 2008, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Ive often wondered myself why lockpicks arent used as currency. Thier price will always be stable within 100 gp of allinace discount. Compared to the price fluctuations ectos have gone through.

Personally on the 2 occasions I hit vault max have purchased a bulk of picks to use up some gold. I buy them at 1250 and I know I wont have any issue at all selling them back at 1250 at any point and time.

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 13, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Because a higher valued item is needed for large cash purchases.

What I was saying is that ectos aren't really stable either yet we use them.

Buddhaofwar · Mar 13, 2008, 03:25 AM // 03:25

or anet could just increase the amount of gold a character can possess at one time. I don't fully understand the 100k cap, but if anyone can explain it to me, I'd appreciate that.

ShadowsRequiem · Mar 13, 2008, 03:37 AM // 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

Black Dyes aren't stable. They used to be worth 12k or more for a long while. Then for a long while they were at 6k. Right now they are at 8k.

Anyhow threads like this always come up with forum posters wanting to change the economy of off Ectos. Usually it's threads with titles like "The Lockpick Revolution" with original posts claiming that lockpicks have or soon will replace Ectos as the basic item of the economy.

But in reality, threads trying to change the economy away from Ectos are always just wishful thinking, and never have any effect of changing the economy away from Ectos at all.

12k is nothing. I remember back when black dye cost around 30k each.

100k gold cap is to try to make it so there arent any items for trades over 100k unfortunately we have things that can be used for higher trades. :P

bhavv · Mar 13, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Ok, I have a new uber rare item thats worth 100k and 100 black dyes at the current merchant sell price.

Who the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is going to have 100 black dyes?

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 13, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Theres people is pre with stacks.